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==Leveling==
==Leveling==
Once you get to levels where you can profitably create [[Potions/Spirit Restoration|Potions of Spirit Restoration]] you are all set for a career as a potion maker.
===Potions of Spirit Restoration===
===Potions of Spirit Restoration===
These are the pots you will most likely make the most, at least until you can make [[Potions/True Sight|True sight potions]], depending on your playing style and preferences probably afterwards as well. Obviously you will have to start with getting the supplies:
* [[#Mortars and pestles|mortars and pestles]],
* [[#Vials|vials]],
* [[#Wine Quest|wine]],
* [[Harvestables/Blue Star Flower|blue star flowers]]; there's a patch close to [[NPCs/Judith|Judith]] the [[Maps/Morcraven Marsh|Morcraven Marsh]] storage,
* [[Harvestables/Blue Quartz|blue quartz]]; there's a nice deposit in the [[Maps/Nordcarn|Nordcarn]] market square or if you have the [[Perks/Monster Magnetism|monster magnetism]] perk [[Maps/Thelinor|Thelinor]] offers a good spot at and inside the city wall.
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====Alternatives====
* You can also try mixing them on site.
* You can mix them while training attack and defense while on spawn, however, since you don't get the vials back and the weight of the ingredients is greater than the weight of the finished potion this doesn't seem to be a good idea. If you want potion experience during a/d training, you should consider and try [[Potions/Mana|Potions of Mana]].
===True sight potions===
===True sight potions===
===Alternatives===
===Alternatives===
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==Potions==
==Potions==
===Beyond vegetal 4===
===Beyond vegetal 4===
==Strategies==
Add your personal tips & tricks, that don't fit in at another place or that should get some extra attention here.

Revision as of 08:08, 27 May 2008

Abstract

This is currently a work in progress, I'll link it when done.

Preliminaries

Mortars and pestles

Mortars&Pestles have a chance to break of 1 in 300 uses. That means you will need a lot of them. You have basically three options of getting mortars&pestles:

  • Buy at general stores for 100gc,
  • buy from players or
  • make your own, once your manufacturing level is high enough you will be able to beat the NPC price but it will obviously take longer. You should make them at the gypsum deposit.

Vials

You will obviously need plenty of empty vials to make potions. There are five options to obtain vials but only three of them will be feasible in the long run:

Food

You have the usual options and we'll discuss them by potion below. However the Potion skill comes with two advantages if you want:

at least from a sufficiently high level on and provided you can get your hands on the Book of Poison Antidote (or get lucky with a Scientists Day).
In the Money Talk subsection we'll look at different player types' outlook on ingredients for now let's just say that if you calculate with market prices for ingredients and value your own time, you will be better off buying feasting potions from NPCs (see the discussion below for details).

Animal parts

There are a number of animal parts that are used in various potions, we'll discuss the usefulness and market for those below. As a general rule of thumb you might want to

  • kill everything that moves and isn't quick enough to get away and
  • save the bloody remains.
  • Especially beginners should remember to save the bones and the meat, furs and other parts usually will have a use or a market at some point.

Some animal parts will be extremely hard to come by later.

NPCs

Money talk

As with almost everything in Eternal Lands you can consider everything except for wine, ale, mead and some of the books to be free in making potions. It is obvious however that obtaining some tools and ingredients takes time away from actually making potions. For some players and some items such as mortars and pestles, vials or meat this may provide a welcome opportunity for experience in other skills, for other players this might not be the case. What it comes down to is that depending on your playing style or philosophy you will find some potions more or less desirable to make, the most prominent being the ones requiring animal items and from those most likely feasting potions.

A little math excursion

To determine when to start making a certain potion (or item in general) is difficult because of the stochastical nature of failures and successes. An in-depth discussion can be found in the probability guide.
For making potions you will have to include the price and break rate of mortar & pestle in your calculations, which comes down to 0.33 gc (100gc cost, 1 in 300 chance to break). Ideally you don't fail and you don't lose ingredients, so your cost in making an item is the sum of the prices of the ingredients, the price for the food to make one item and the tool price per item (1/3). However that's not reality, so you'll have to calculate with failures both critical and non-critical and you have to keep in mind the price that NPCs sell the items for, which might make making some potions unprofitable for you; while the fact that NPCs buy some potions will make some potions very profitable for you as well as set a lower bound for what you should charge players.


First steps

Quests

Potion Quest

This quest will get you almost to level 9, do it.

Wine Quest

This quest will enable you to buy wine at 0.75gc (20 wine for 15gc) from Vesine, the only reason for a potion maker to not do this quest would be the Antisocial perk.

Potions for beginners

When to start SRs

Leveling

Once you get to levels where you can profitably create Potions of Spirit Restoration you are all set for a career as a potion maker.

Potions of Spirit Restoration

These are the pots you will most likely make the most, at least until you can make True sight potions, depending on your playing style and preferences probably afterwards as well. Obviously you will have to start with getting the supplies:


Alternatives

  • You can also try mixing them on site.
  • You can mix them while training attack and defense while on spawn, however, since you don't get the vials back and the weight of the ingredients is greater than the weight of the finished potion this doesn't seem to be a good idea. If you want potion experience during a/d training, you should consider and try Potions of Mana.

True sight potions

Alternatives

Potions

Beyond vegetal 4

Strategies

Add your personal tips & tricks, that don't fit in at another place or that should get some extra attention here.